Ходжа Н. (hojja_nusreddin) wrote,
Ходжа Н.

Dave FromtheBlog, "Romantic Love in the West – Where We went Wrong"

I wondered for a long time about why Rumi is the best selling poet in America given our often bigoted portrayals and prejudices concerning Muslim. It would seem ironic to supposed that the Mystic, who had said that he is less than the dust on the Prophet’s feet would be America’s number one poet, would out sell Shakespeare, especially with the war on terror.

Another less pressing mystery that plagued my mind for a while was always the view of love in medieval times, i.e. the chantson de geste, the stories of love for love’s sake, the weird love triangles like Arthur, Guenevere and Sir Lancelot etc. Joseph Campbell has written many great things about the influence of Sufism and Islam on Arthurian myth and a lot of the literature of the Medieval ages. But there was something I never got that had I search deeper was a place where both of this mysteries came together.

Upon being asked “Why is Sufism not known in the West?" Llewellyn Vaughan Lee says some really poignant and interesting things I thought I would share along with the video below. The questions of why is Sufism not known in the West is really a part of a larger question he proceeds to ask and that is “Why have we lost this tradition of Divine love in the West?”

In part of his talk he talks about the medieval times, when while during the Crusades we had the meeting of the Troubadours and Sufi poetry. Quite often when war brings two cultures together there is an interesting diffusion and intermingling of ideas and traditions which takes place. In the previous post Pir Zia Inayat Khan mentions the Majma’Al-Bah’Rayn, also known as the meeting of Oceans which is when the disparate spiritual tradition for some reason or another come into contact. I feel there was such a thing taking place in the Medeival times especially because of the Crusades.

Some Interesting Points from the follow video

There are a ton more but I will just put up a few
1. While the Crusades were being fought there was an intermingling of traditions, the troubadour poets were heavily influenced by the Sufi poets and took the Sufi poetry literally.
2. They brought back with them this tradition of love but not necessarily the understanding of the symbology that was need to unlock the beatific images of Divine love that the Sufis placed in the image and talk of the Beloved.
3. The Sufi divine love tradition infiltrated into Courtly love, which in turn became the basis for our ideals of Romantic love in the West
4. Our obsession for Romantic love in the west is a rather unbalanced one, and as a result there is a longing culturally for an experience of a deeper dimension of love.
5. part of the reason Rumi is so popular today is because his mystical poetry re-injects the missing element needed to balance our conception of Love and its ideal in the West.
A quote that sticks out from the video: “I think if people really new what was involved {in the process of divine love] they wouldn’t actually read Rumi, because the love he talks about is the one that annihilates you that tears you apart…”

Different degrees of domination and servitude
are what you know as love.

But love is different it arrives complete -
just there - like the moon at the window.

Seek only that of which you have no clue.
Desire only that of which you have no hope.

This is not the Oxus River or some little creek.
This is the shoreless sea; here, swimming ends always in drowning


The original posting was made at http://hojja-nusreddin.dreamwidth.org/47433.html
Tags: rumi, любовь, суфизм

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